Smith indicated that he had been married once “in this body, but a bunch of times.” He then indicated that
he had been “told” that he had been a number of different people, including “John Johnson,” and others,
and had been married as those people, but only married “once as John Smith.” Mr. Smith reported that he
had four children that he knows are biologically his, but there are up to nine children that “call me dad.” It
was again unclear if Mr. Smith believed that he had fathered these other children when he was someone
else. Mr. Smith has been homeless since 2013. He indicated that at some point a movie producer had
offered him “$20,000,” for being part of a movie, and that at various times he was told to go different
places; ostensibly to begin production of this movie or to have a place to live.
Mr. Smith reported that he had graduated from high school, and attended community college when he was
in prison. It did not appear that he had obtained a college degree. Mr. Smith denied any history of learning
disability or special education for learning issues, but he stated that he had special education for “behavior
disorder.” When asked if he had ever served in the military, Mr. Smith referenced “in this body, I tried to,
but I was a felon before 18.” He went on to speaking about his family history of military involvement.
Mr. Smith was asked about his meaning in reference to “this body,” and he stated, “who I am now. [Who
were you before?] A lot of people. I became confused. [How long have you been this person?] I thought
forever, but they tell me I was other people I don’t remember. [Who tells you?] I used to think it was God,
then I thought it was the producer, then I thought I was crazy.” He then described having a history of
working in construction and janitorial services, but he has been on disability since 2001 for a diagnosis of
Schizoaffective Disorder.
According to Mr. Smith, he was diagnosed with Schizoaffective Disorder in 1998. At that time he was
receiving treatment from “CPC” (Community Psychiatric Clinic). Mr. Smith indicated that he had a
history of taking a number of different antipsychotic and mood stabilizing medications, but he had not
been on medications for some time. He stated that he was currently “scared” to take medications due to a
bad experience in 2013 when he had an irregular heartbeat as the result of medication combination
effects. Mr. Smith described symptoms such as auditory hallucinations that “told me to kill myself, I used
to think it was God, one time my mom, one time a friend, he was dead.” He indicated a history of hearing
various different voices at different times, and he had believed it was God’s voice but when he “started
being wrong,” he seemed to question the source of the voice. He last heard voices the day before the
interview. He stated he had a history of visual hallucinations, but not “for a long time.” In passing, Mr.
Smith described noticing “symbols” when mentioning the voices he had heard, and when asked more
about this symptom he stated, “I don’t know the church said I must’ve… But they said I broke the code…
0÷1 equals infinity squared was supposed to be impossible; binary code… Seven heavens and seven
Hells… Must be in the other realm for infinity to be squared…” When asked about people being able to
read his mind, Mr. Smith referenced, “they said they can, working on my cognitive response
technology… Influence behavior patterns and actions… They’re trained to train you but that was from the
military and I’m not sure I’m supposed to be talking to you about that…” He indicated that he had
attempted suicide in 2001 by overdosing on pills. He stated he had been in a coma for “a couple weeks”
and has short-term memory problems as a result. He further referenced other suicide attempts in 2014 or
2013, and it was unclear if he was referencing the 2001 incident or one of the subsequent incidents when
he stated that he “took all my pills. The voice told me everyone else was dead and I went home and took
all the pills…”
Regarding health, Mr. Smith stated, “my spiritual health is low, physical health I’m doing great.” Mr.
Smith went on to describe “pain” as being a “state of mind,” but his statements were difficult to follow or
understand. Mr. Smith was asked about his substance abuse history, and he denied drinking alcohol with
any frequency, and stated he had used marijuana “4 to 5 times” in the last four years. He indicated that he
had used cocaine and methamphetamine during the last “couple years,” and stated that he “thought I was
doing a documentary on the short-term and long-term effects, a lot of times I was smoking stuff and other
stuff… They tell me, the voices, I don’t know, they want me to desensitize the people… Supposed to tell